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Clive Rosfield. ([personal profile] gruffier) wrote2023-09-05 12:40 pm

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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-15 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[He was ready to yell right back, but Jill getting between them does stop him from doing so. His hand still tight around the phone, Cid starts trying to stand.]

That...won't be a problem—once I—!

[Well, if he could stand. He's using his other hand to brace against the tub to push himself up, but of course with it being wet and him having barely any balance, he ends up staggering and falling out of the tub with a very disgraceful crash.]
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-15 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[If she were a lesser woman, Jill could totally take advantage of how Clive just softens around her. She can see it in the way his shoulders just melt and his behavior improves. Luckily, the idea has and never will occur to her. Besides, there are much more pressing issues to deal with at hand, namely Cid and his horrible condition.

The hand on her shoulders gets covered with one of her own and squeezed gently, silent recognition and acceptance of Clive's apology. It doesn't take much for her to forgive him; Cid, on the other hand, intoxicated or not, will be hearing a bit from Jill. Once Clive has him sitting somewhat upright, Jill kneels down next him, voice steady and brooking no nonsense.]


Cid. I need you to listen to me and listen to me carefully. [There's a pause, but she really doesn't wait for him to speak.] There will be no more hitting of anybody. Clive is trying to help you and you will respect him.

[Honestly, it sounds like she's speaking to a child, but what is a drunken man if not a small mind in an adult's body?]
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[He has no choice but to sit up, though he doesn't even mutter a word of thanks or even acknowledgment. He just sits there, back against the tub before he snorts.]

You nagging, too?

[A rough low drawl as he doesn't even look at Jill.]

I warned him. Told him to fuck off and he didn't.

[And then another low mutter.]

Don't need your damn...help, anyway.

[A wild wave of his hand before it falls hard against the floor...and once more he's going to try to stand.]

No helping this shit—
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-18 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I will if it will get you to let us help you.

[Truly, it doesn't offend her to be called a nagger. She's heard worse throughout her life and well, Cid's drunk. Jill isn't going to hold the alcohol talking against him too much; the punch, however, still has her exasperated, but there's nothing much they can do about that right now.

Clive's question is important and they do need the answer to it because she too can tell something is behind this, something that deeply affected Cid to go this far into his cups in a single night.]


Please, Cid. Answer him.
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-18 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[There's a sharp look, one that for a brief moment conveys a rare look of barely contained anger at being held back like this. Of course a lot of it is due to the alcohol, but a lot of raw nerves are being hit. Nerves and emotions he'd rather keep to himself than let anyone else know about it.

Know about this mess he's kicked up and made himself. A mess he can't fix.

A mess that is still eating at him no matter what he does.]


I fucked up.

[The words spill out even if he doesn't want them to, but maybe the alcohol is the blame for that, too. Or maybe deep down he did want to have someone hear. Have someone help him.

Help him help her.

And so his hand clutches tighter against the phone as his head hangs low, his voice rough with a mix of rare defeat and despair.]


I fucked up and there's no going back...

[...Though it might take a bit to get tbe whole story out given everything.]
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-19 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[Likewise, Jill looks at Clive with the same sort of confusion written on her face. The unasked question of what exactly is Cid babbling about has her shaking her head because she absolutely cannot think of anything that could bring the man to his proverbial knees like this. He seemed to be taking his death back home in stride, so that couldn't be it at all.

She's at a total loss, so Jill just shakes her head again, thinking maybe a little prompting will get them some clarity on the matter.]


Cid, I'm sure whatever it is, it's not that bad. Couldn't be that bad.
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that bad...hah!

[There's a harsh laugh, one that rings hollow in the small bathroom. And while deep down he would recognize Jill is trying to help, his current mindset is not taking kindly to it. In fact, he can only look at them with almost scornful expressions since they're keeping him here and making him have to actually talk about this.

Even if they actually aren't forcing him and a part of him hopes they could help. Help him fix this bloody fucked up mess he made.

So there's another stretch of silence before he reaches in his pocket to pull out a cigar, not caring if they get bothered by him smoking here or not. They wanted him to talk, and he'll talk, but he's going to need this to get through it.]


Benedikta.

[That's all he says at first through clenched teeth biting down on the cigar before he uses his index finger to spark the end of it to light, drawing in a deep drag to let it sit in his mouth before releasing the smoke slowly and looking at Clive.]

You once asked... What the story was between her and I.

[He then looks at Jill.]

And then I told you both about the girl I wanted to save.

[Another deep breath in and exhale before he pulls out the cigar and let's his hand fall, head tilting back against the tub.]

One in the same. She was the best and worst decision I ever made... Because I loved her and wanted to save her from her fate. And yet—

[A rough wave of his hand.]

You saw how that ended.

[His shoulders sag and he rubs his eyes with a shaky breath.]

And I was a fool to think we could have another chance.
Edited 2023-09-19 22:22 (UTC)
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh, no, it is that bad. Once Jill hears that woman's name, it takes everything in her to keep how she feels about Benedikta off her face. And hearing Cid say he loved her... there's a kneejerk reactionary thought that is the simple and single word why in Jill's mind. There has not been one good thing about Benedikta that Jill could find, not even with a stretch, in the few interactions they've shared, so what could Cid possibly find in her to love?

To want to try and love her again? After all Benedikta has done? When she's partnered with Barnabas of all people? There's attraction and then there's plain insanity and Jill's wondering if Cid is leaning into the latter a little bit too much.

But it's not her place to say any of this out loud, especially when she's saved by Clive asking a necessary question that expects an answer so she doesn't have to figure out some cordial words. For now, she just stays silent, forcing her expression into something neutral, and allows Cid the space to talk.]
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-22 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
[Even in his drunken state he can feel the general confusion and unease in their thoughts, and he's not bothered by it. If anything they only reflect common sense, what with how things turned out and what they experienced. What they see now.]

Last straw, probably.

["Probably." Most likely. Yet there was still that confusion, that ambiguity. Denial, too.

He takes another smoke before revealing a little more of this complicated puzzle.]


Look. I know how she is now, but she didn't always used to be that way. And I'm not going to bore you with all my baggage. But I'll tell you this much.

[He takes another long drag as he thinks about how much he should say and how much he actually wants to. But with all that alcohol, his tongue is going to be looser, anyway. Probably too loose with all that he's about to say to them.]

I used to serve under Barnabas as his Lord Commander. Over twenty years I gave that man my life and he returned it by using me for his own damn schemes. Used all of us, including Benedikta. He's the one who sent her to Kupka. [His face contorts even more, disgust and anger brimming in his eyes before he sighs.] Barnabas changed us, and there was nothing I could do then to stop it—or her. But even after I left Waleod, I always hoped—tried to make her see the truth. To make her leave him.

[A small, defeated sigh, his hand still gripping the phone tightly.]

But she never forgave me for leaving her... And I regret not taking her.

[Another smoke, as if to gather his thoughts and himself.]

So, when we met again here... Thought maybe this could be a second chance to make amends. Not even to get back together, just... Something. Anything. Help her find a new path in life that she couldn't back in ours. Try to do what I couldn't before.

But Barnabas showing up threw a wrench in that... And I made it worse.

[A small, hollow empty laugh.]

She didn't know she was dead. She had her suspicions, given how I found her. [A small glance at Clive, but he doesn't say anything. The kid doesn't need to know.] But me and my big mouth didn't realize it, so I was the one who ended up telling her. You can imagine how well that went. Tried to talk to her again last night, but.. Fucked that up, too.

I don't know what she wants anymore, if she even wants me anymore. Never gave me a straight answer. She says and does one thing, then pushes me away. [A rough wave of his hand, smoke trailing through the air.] I'm just ruining her, and I should just cut it all, should have ages ago but—[His voice strains a bit.]

I can't. Pathetic, right?

[There's a thin, wane smile that does little to mask the deep hurt and confusion that plagues him. Even hearing all of this to his ears, it's so obvious what he should do. Knows what he would say to anyone else in his place. But each time he thinks, "This is it, no more, I quit," he sees her face. Sees that fear in her eyes, the way she still clearly seeks him. Wants him. Needs him. To what end, he doesn't know, and that's part of the problem.]
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-28 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[With Clive looking at her as if he seeks to find an explanation in her, Jill widens her own eyes and gives him a shake of her head. This is so much. Perhaps too much. She still has a distaste for the woman, but there is a little part of Jill that's sympathetic to Benedikta learning about her own death. Surely that has to be traumatic, being surprised with such a heavy topic, the knowledge that there is nothing left for you in the world left back home. There's no way Jill could understand it, but she knows the feeling of receiving heart stopping information.

And surely Benedikta's connection, that unfailing loyalty to Barnabas of all people, isn't making the situation easier.

Still, someone has to state the bitter truth to the man and because Clive's statement seems harsh, she decides insulting Cid isn't her preferred method.]


You cannot force her hand.

[Her voice itself is low, soft, almost cautious in her approach to Cid. He may not like what she has to say, but it's going to be said anyway with good intentions..]

If there is one thing I have learned over the years is that you can't save those who do not wish to be saved. You have given her the choice, perhaps the space to see her options, but if she continues to choose the one that does not involve you, no amount of pushing her will change that.

Time will, maybe, but not drink. [A pause as she turns to look at Clive, eyes falling upon his reddened cheek.] Or taking your frustration out on other people's faces.
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-28 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ugh, he just makes a face at them.

But not out of contempt. He knows wallowing in alcohol was a poor decision, but it was the one he needed at the time. ...Still not going to apologize to Clive about the punch—not tonight, anyway. He will later when he sobers up.

For now, he just lets out a hollow laugh.]


Space... Well it's what she wants, so that's exactly what she'll get.
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-09-30 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
[One could say that she is demanding one, but only because it's Cid. She expected better of him, really, and all of them have hit rock bottom. More than once in some cases, but which one of them hit their ally who was just trying to assist? Right.

But that's something for her to argue Cid down about when his mind is less fueled by ale.]


And if she is ever ready, you must not become bitter over how long it took for her decision to arrive.

[It's a strange feeling, this consideration she's giving to Benedikta of all people. Jill can't say she likes one bit of the woman, but as a fellow human being, there's that basic decency one should be afforded. A person, regardless of their misdeeds, should have a choice. Benedikta should have full say whether or not she was Cid back in her life and should have all the time in the world to decide on that. Anything less would just be unkind.

Anything less would go against the ethos of the Hideaway.]


Until then? You wait.
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-09-30 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
And if I already had?

[It's not that what they said is wrong. Just...]

I gave her that choice six years ago. Waited six years until she died.

And she's once again back with Barnabas.

[His voice is deflated, whatever ire he had left gone.]

I'm not saying you're wrong. But...

[He looks at Jill now, frowning. Maybe she might be able to answer??]

She told me I should have fought harder.

[And this is where things get a bit mixed because he was with their mindset—wait. But her words seem to suggest otherwise and this is where confusion and uncertainty rises.]
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[personal profile] tilfrosset 2023-10-01 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
[Jill may be a woman with a woman's mind, but she isn't part of some shared brain between all of Valisthea's women. Hells, she barely knows her way around a relationship, finding herself still uncertain of doing more than chaste kisses and innocent hand-holding with Clive. Looking to a late bloomer for advice on why another woman being wishy washy will probably end up in sadness for all parties.

But what she does know is the fear of wishing for something for yourself, but being too afraid to ask for it. For Jill, it was because everything she desired was denied of her or worse, the mere want of a thing was promised only for it to be used against her over and over again until it was beaten out of her spirit. She learned to be hesitant in entertaining the simple idea, much less the actual action, of having a want.

Maybe this is Benedikta's issue, though Jill's guess is foggy. She knows not of what the woman has gone through, only knowing her as the Wind Harpy with the nasty attitude. But no one is born with such a personality, are they? Not without a good reason.]


Did you fight at all? Did you ask her once and believe that was it?

[The questions are soft in nature, not at all accusing. She's just trying to find out what exactly is Cid's definition of fighting for Benedikta is.]

It may not have been enough to break through the fear of wanting something so big, a change bigger than her, without a firm hand at her back.
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[personal profile] ramuhs 2023-10-01 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's silent for a moment before he answers.]

If we're talking about the past, then no.

[A small, haggard sigh as he runs a hand over his face.]

At least, not in the way she wanted I suppose. Short of killing Hugo and Barnabas, the only other "way" left would have been to take her away kicking and screaming with me.

[His hand then falls with a hard smack against his leg.]

Maybe I should have. But at the time she had made it so clear she wanted to stay in Waleod, that she wanted that over me, it was basically the final straw. How was I supposed to know she secretly wanted me to take her when she was doing everything else to say otherwise? All those times...

[He stops himself, not wanting to beleaguer old memories on two people who don't need to be dragged further into this mess. Especially when he knows how this all sounds.]

I always wondered if I should have just done it, but that would leave me no better than the rest. So I let her have her choice. But with how things turned out...

[Another empty wave of his hand.]

You may be right. I missed the signs and should have given her a firmer hand.

[Security with an all powerful king versus a man set to go rogue and rebel against the world. From that standpoint, the choice is clear for someone too afraid of risks.]